The Pain and Devastation Continues

I have had at least six emails in the last week from new 'victims' of IPL, lasers, and V-Beam. Why isn't someone listening when these people speak of their pain and suffering?

The ONLY thing these people have in common is they have had a laser, IPL or V-Beam treatment within days or a couple of weeks of the on-set of their symptoms. Many of those contacting me lately have complained of systemic problems, involving joint pain, vision problems, and swallowing difficulty.

Many of these victims have had innumerable medical tests all coming back 'normal'. Doctors appear to be looking for a 'specific' disease or problem rather than a correlation between the recent procedure and on-set of symptoms.

A tiny handful of doctors have admitted behind closed doors that they feel the symptoms are because of something (deep burns, high temperature??) that happened during the IPL/laser/V-Beam procedure, but none know what or how. These ARE safe procedures, after all. Aren't they? No, think again. They are anything but safe. These procedures are ruining lives and damaging people forever.

Someone who can make a difference and speak out loudly, please step forward. Someone who can expose these devices and procedures for what they are, please pay attention, care, and be brave enough to take on this cause. Someone, anyone, please help!

To read the stories of victims of government approved cosmetic devices, please visit our support forum at:  http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

IPL and Facial Fat Loss

How do I know? I've corresponded with 100s of people who've experienced this phenomenon following IPL treatments. Their doctors do not believe them but it happens nonetheless.

Please visit:  http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/  or click here

to read the stories of those suffering the horrible outcomes from having had IPL treatments.

Many feel it causes DNA damage than can turn into systemic problems that many are also experiencing.

Blame the FDA for this, the blame is at the feet of this quagmire of complicity with medical device manufacturers and the 501k process.

New Information

If you visit the IPL and Laser Support Board at: http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/   there is a post "general" concerning a study done at Harvard by the doctors at the Wellman center. This study speaks of "by-stander" damage and DNA damage from 'thermal heating' from laser devices. This study was not intended for the average lay person as the intended audience is other medical professionals, but I feel it speaks volumes of the potential damage that can be done by laser devices.

If you have been damaged by laser and do not wish to speak publicly, you can anonymously join the IPL and Laser Damage discussion group. You may email any other member there, once you have joined. There are many stories of others harmed by laser and other cosmetic devices on the board. Here is a link:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/  or click here

Some Research Papers on IPL

Intense Pulsed Light or IPL as it is known to most patients was first used in the cosmetic industry for hair removal. It evolved into a tool for facial redness, Rosacea, pigmentation issues and "anti-aging".Light pulses targeted at the hair follicle causing the hair to fall out and prevent further growth.

In ththis diagram, you can see how deep a the light must penetrate to reach the hair follicle to "destroy" it. To me, as I am not medically trained, it looks as though the laser has gone well below where the fat layer is, passing through the fat layer on the way to its target (hair follicle).

How can it be assumed that surrounding layers of fat are not damaged in the "journey"?

From what I have read and in my discussions with those who have experienced fat loss following IPL treatments, our feeling is that the fat layer IS damaged by IPL. IPL treatments for other cosmetic procedures appear to be compromising the blood vessels in the fat layer leading to the "death" of the fat or fat atrophy. If an IPL treatment can kill hair follicles, it seems perfectly logical (to me) that it could damage blood vessels in the fat layer of the skin.

The quote from one study speaks of the oxidative and cumulative damage of IPL.

It appeared in the Archives of Dermatology, Olivier Sorg, PhD; Victor Janer, MD; Christophe Antille, MD; Pierre Carraux; Evelyne Leemans; Elizabeth Masgrau, MD; Jean-Hilaire Saurat, MD; Denis Salomon, MDArch Dermatol. 2007;143(3):363-366Quoting the study:

Conclusions: These preliminary results indicate that IPL, although filtered for wavelengths shorter than 500 nm, can generate oxidative stress, a typical hallmark of UV-A, but does not induce thymine dimers. This emphasizes the need for long-term studies involving IPL before using this technique in a recurrent manner.

The quote below is taken from an article commenting on the above study written by Craig A. Elmets, MD . Published in Journal Watch Dermatology April 13, 2007.

According to the subtitle of Dr. Elmet's article:

Molecular study suggests that we keep an open mind about the long-term safety of IPL therapy.

However, the level of lipid peroxides in IPL-exposed skin was six times as high as in nonirradiated skin and twice as high as in skin exposed to UVA light. Comment: The implication of this study is that IPL treatment may not be without consequences. Although IPL irradiation did not affect thymine dimer production because the light source does not emit in the UV range, it did produce considerable amounts of lipid peroxides, an indicator of oxidative stress. Oxidative stress has been associated with a number of deleterious effects; beyond premature aging of the skin, it has been shown to promote skin cancer in experimental animal models. Although these molecular studies do not necessarily mean that long-term adverse effects will ensue, the results point to our ignorance of IPL’s lasting effects. Many highly effective therapies have had adverse effects that were not fully identified until years after regulatory approval. Until IPL has been in active use for a while longer, continuing
follow-up of patients remains important.

This study speaks of possible DNA damage by IPL.

This study was published in Lasers Surg Med. 2007 Jan;39(1):7.


The study was conducted on mice:

CONCLUSION: The repeated use of high-energy laser and intense pulsed light source did not cause any toxicity in mice. The changes in p16 and PCNA imply that further studies are necessary to consider the implications of repeated exposure to longer wavelength radiation in human skin.

There is no doubt, based on the studies above that IPL has considerable risks. It is now time to acknowledge that the risks go far beyond those found in the studies above and give credence to those who have most definitely experienced fat loss through IPL treatments. Our blog and support forum exist to enlighten and warn others of the dangers of IPL. IPL damage is real, not a myth.

Do You Have Recourse If a Loved One Is Severely Injured or Dies Because of a Defective FDA Approved Medical Device?

According to the Supreme Court, NO . There is no recourse:

http://www.newsinferno.com/archives/4787

An excerpt from the article follows:

From a year ago:

According to The New York Times, both Waxman and Pallone have criticized the Riegel decision. For his part, Pallone said he expects the House Energy and Commerce Committee to hold hearings this session to question whether the FDA. process for approving devices is adequate.

Many consumer advocates also decry the ruling because of the FDA’s poor track record of policing medical device, something that has been well-documented in recent months.
In fact, last month the Government Accountability Office issued a report that criticized the agency for failing to conduct appropriate medical device reviews. Around the same time of FDA scientists wrote then President-elect Obama imploring him to reform the agency, which they characterized as corrupt.
The letter explained that that FDA’s regulation of medical devices was “corrupted and distorted by current FDA managers, thereby placing the American people at risk.” The letter also provided specifics about how scientists who differed in opinion from FDA management were threatened with disciplinary action.

“Consumers face the worse of all possible worlds,” David C. Vladeck, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center and a medical industry watchdog, told the Times.
“The FDA has shown itself incapable of keeping dangerous products off the market, and now the Supreme Court has said patients can’t sue companies for redress.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/washington/21device.html

Your child, mother, father, or grandparents could literally have a known defective lead from a Medtronics implantable defibrillator and die or be severely injured from the defect device and you have no recourse.

This is a travesty and the law MUST BE CHANGED!

Medtronic and the Bush Administration asserted that allowing state personal injury lawsuits against the makers of defective medical devices amounts to a state “requirement” different from FDA requirements because such complaints are based on state laws. Eight members of the high court agreed with Medtronic. The Court recently heard another case, Wyeth vs. Levine, that could extend a similar lawsuit shield to drug makers.

There is renewed effort to overturn one of the Bush era tragedies (his staunch support that medical device manufacturers cannot be sued), please read here:

http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/16018

I have no affiliation with the website above and used it only for the purpose of displaying the updated information regarding efforts to overturn the law.

Some in Congress are seeking to do just that. According to The Minneapolis Star Tribune, Rep. Henry Waxman, D- Calif. and Rep. Frank Pallone Jr., D-N.J., plan to introduce legislation that would ov turn the Supreme Court's Riegel ruling. The Supreme Court decision "left consumers without any ability to get compensation for injuries caused by certain defective medical devices,'' Waxman said in a statement to the Star Tribune.
"The Supreme Court assumed that FDA approval ensures medical devices are safe, but the many recent stories of patients harmed by faulty devices have proven that assumption false."
According to the Star Tribune, the Supreme Court ruling covers Class III medical devices, such as implantable defibrillators, which are theoretically subject to the greatest level of scrutiny by the FDA before they are approved.

But lawyers representing Sprint Fidelis victims argue that the lead was not subjected to the same level of clinical scrutiny as other Class III devices because its application piggybacked an earlier Medtronic lead approved by the agency, the Star Tribune said.

It does not stop there, the FDA is rife with corruption! From the New York Times in mid-January, excerpts from the article are below:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/us/28fda.html?_r=1&emc=tnt&tntemail0=y

But the accountability investigators found that the agency still allowed manufacturers of most Class III devices to gain approval without conducting extensive testing. Part of the reason may be that some Class III devices should be reclassified as Class II devices, while other such devices simply should be tested more.Critics have long bemoaned the agency’s device approval process, which allows most devices to be approved with minimal testing. Manufacturers say the agency is already overly restrictive.

Of course they (manufacturers) feel they are "over regulated", they want these devices on the market as soon as possible to make MONEY, they don't care about the safety of the public at large, only the money going in their coffers!!

For these reasons, in the quote above, people are dying, being treated as guinea pigs, seriously injured or even being scarred for life by cosmetic devices that went to market in less than a year!!!!

Here is an excellent editorial written by Dr. Dr. Amy Newburger (published in the Archives of Dermatology/VOL 142, FEB 2006) warning of rush to market medical devices and FDA regulation:

http://www.dcwderm.com/arch.pdf

What can you do? WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN!

Find contact information for all members of Congress here:

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

Sign this petition to Congress to protect yourself, family and friends:

http://www.rallycongress.com/revamp-the-fda/1546/call-to-congress-to-overhaul-fda-medical-device-approval/

To read the stories of those damaged by these FDA approved devices, please visit the support forum:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

New IPL and Laser Support Board

The IPL and Laser Damage Support Group has a new home:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/  or click here


Please visit our support group to read the stories of those who have been damaged physically and emotionally by cosmetic devices such as IPL and lasers.

The old board was originally started at Daily Strength, later moved to another forum, but we have now moved to a newer PHPbb message board which offers speed and more features for visitors and members.

Please come read the stories of those damaged by government approved cosmetic devices:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

What Is The Proof?

This is a double edged sword for those who've suffered fat loss or other damage from lasers and IPL devices. The pain of showing that proof is difficult, emotionally. Yet the proof IS the faces of those who've suffered damage from these devices. When confronted, most doctors will not recognize the damage or they will attribute the damage to something/anything other than the device. I'm sure many doctors fear the legal repercussions but most patients want validation that what they are seeing is real, most doctors fear being sued and won't acknowledge it. It's a hamster wheel for victims.

There's little doubt that many have been burned by ablative lasers who's settings were too high. I had unusual damage from an erbium laser that I do not attribute to lack of skill by my doctor, but my own skin's propensity for being sensitive to ablative laser. It's been two years and I have hollowing beneath my eyes, demarcation, small scar beneath one eye and horizontal creasing below my eyes when I smile--none of which were present prior to laser resurfacing.

I am posting links to other websites where people have given reviews or posted their experience with ablative lasers/IPL/RF, many have pictures showing the damage. For me, these pictures speak volumes and are "proof" enough for me:


http://www.realself.com/review/fraxel-laser-horrible (with pictures) A very brave lady who has suffered greatly, physically and emotionally.

http://www.realself.com/review/do-not-do-fraxel-ruined-face-burns (with pictures). Another brave lady who's suffered a great deal as well.

http://www.realself.com/review/ipl-can-cause-serious-burns (pictures included of burns from IPL)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_VQNm_3NHo (youtube video of lady having fat grafts to correct volume loss from IPL)

http://www.realself.com/review/dents-face-pixel-laser-wrinkles

http://www.realself.com/review/pixel-ruined-eyes

http://www.realself.com/review/fraxel-excruciatingly-painful

http://www.realself.com/review/thermage-face-looks-different-and-older

http://www.realself.com/review/montreal-thermage

http://www.realself.com/review/ipl-ruined-face

http://www.realself.com/review/ipl-sagging-permanent-puffiness

http://www.realself.com/review/laser-resurfacing-side-effects-redness-acne-pores

http://www.realself.com/review/mixto-co2-laser-beware

http://www.realself.com/review/montreal-thermage

http://www.realself.com/review/thermage-london

http://www.realself.com/review/thermage-has-destroyed-my-face.html

http://www.realself.com/review/thermage-made-mess-my-face.html

http://www.realself.com/review/thermage-review/my_thermage_nightmare.html

The "proof" is in the pictures and video.

I could cite forum after forum where these same types of stories exist, but will stop for today.

Please leave comments or leave your story if you have had similar experiences. Our voices should and need to be heard and ring all over the world.

Please read the stories of those damaged by government approved cosmetic devices:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

Fat Loss/Atrophy From Cosmetic Devices

Many who have been damaged by cosmetic devices such as IPL and non-ablative lasers have suffered from fat atrophy, meaning the laser/IPL traveled down to the subcutaneous fat layer and destroyed the cells and compromised the blood vessel supply. While this may not be officially vetted by doctors or scientifically proven, it is the most plausible explanation. On another day, I will point out some interesting information about IPL and the depths of penetration to the skin.

The following blurb is posted on numerous websites all over the Internet with regard to IPL, mostly on manufacturer/distributor and practitioner websites. I cannot list them all, nor note the author as it is unknown to me:

As a photonic "Swiss Army Knife", Intense Pulsed light (IPL) devices have become very popular over the recent past. They are much less costly to manufacture than lasers-they're basically a pulsed laser without the costly laser components such as the laser rod, pump chamber, optics, and delivery device. Broadband light has the ability to target multiple chromophores, including blood and melanin, and although cutoff filters can modify the emitted broadband spectrum to some extent, it cannot match the specificity of monochromatic laser light. Any photons not absorbed by the target chromophore will be absorbed by other chromophores and then dissipated as heat. This "collateral damage" has actually been touted as an advantage of IPL over lasers by some proponents, but in reality the amount of energy delivered to the intended target may be compromised by undesirable effects on adjacent structures.
IPL devices have been aggressively marketed to physicians as a less expensive, "one box" alternative to multiple dedicated lasers. In addition to versatility, IPL devices have the advantage of larger spot sizes than lasers, which is useful for treating large areas quickly. Their lack of specificity limits their use, especially in darker skinned patients. As a rule IPL devices are less effective than a dedicated laser for a given task.

The cogent portion in the information above is bolded in red. Perhaps those suffering fat loss/atrophy have this collateral damage, with the collatateral damage mentioned as almost an aside rather than the real side-effect it has most assuredly become.

If you have doubts this collateral damage exists, please, meet the collateral damage-all of whom are members of the IPL/laser support board:

Member #1: VBeam - January - September of 2007 -5 treatments over entire face- orange peel texture, pitted and linear scars at cheeks, pitted scars at temples and a few at jaw-line, enlarged pores, fat loss over entire face, indentations at temples, forehead, jaw-line. skin is hyper-sensitive to all topicals - flushes red. changes most notable 4-6 weeks after last procedure. - IPL 1999- 3 treatments over entire face- pock mark scar and mole noted on left cheek within weeks of last procedure- indentations at temples with fat loss at temples noted months later.

Member #2: IPL -Fall 2007-Two treatments on face and neck-Complications include pin pricks on cheeks; pitted scars, ice pick scars on cheeks, chin, temples, forehead; lines like etchings or stab wounds that go in all directions on cheeks, nose, near lips, temples, chin; blotchy, hyperpigmented skin all over face. I look diseased.
Enlarged pores on cheeks, nose, forehead, chin, between nose and lips. Looks like orange peel. Wrinkles everywhere, sagging skin around eyes; fat loss all over face and neck. Thinned out skin. Overly sensitive to skin products that had been used safely in the past. Skin burns easily now. Roughened texture to skin on top of everything else. Prone to breakouts. Damage still going.

Member #3: Non-Ablative laser - Late 2007- 1 treatment resulted in 2 ndented lines that became visible within the early weeks following procedure. Volume loss right next to it in my upper right cheek that continued very slowly over the following year.

Member #4: IPL Sept. 2005 (thought it would help my rosacea) Two IPL treatments - twice in the same week as part of a special 3-part program- thank God I didn't do all 3! The first seemed fine, but I could tell during the second one (when the doctor said he was going to really crank it up) that something was wrong. Sure enough that did me in. This did me in and completely melted/hollowed my entire head. The surface skin itself became very thin and fragile with pinprick holes and even made a few weird moles grow.

Member #5: IPL 2006 - I had a series of 5 IPL sessions for my mild rosacea. Had good results, but on the 5th session the doctor decided to increase power which worsened my rosacea (but no textural damage). I waited 6 months, and saw a very good laser practitioner who decided to give me 2 test patches over a period of 6 months...everything was fine. Went ahead with the full treatment, (doctor decided it would be ok to increase the power slightly ) During the treatment I complained that the IPL treatment was actually burning my face, but he assured me everything would be ok and carried on. Well the rest is history, severe inflammation, severe nose swelling, and a few months later as my skin began to recover I noticed my cheeks were covered in pinprick indentations.
Member #6: IPL - I had about seven-eight treatments previously, spread out over 2-3 years(2006-2007), always with reduction of pigmentation on skin and good result- 5/2008- power increased at this visit- performed on face and chest-Since last treatment: scarring on one cheek immediately- indentations a few minutes after procedure (thermal burns?) which enlarged over 5-6 months; 6 weeks after IPL-cheeks deflated, then indentations formed on both cheeks (ice-pick scars), also squiggly lines all over one cheek, indentations on forehead, lines on nose, indentations and lines between nose and lips, lines/indentations extending from side of mouth down sides of chin, small tears all over skin, pinpoint scarring all over skin, orange peel texture to skin, enlarged pores-wrinkles and thin skin over chest-if I have a blemish it leaves a scar. My skin has lost its former elasticity-I look as though I had severe acne as a child. Changing still....

The story does not get better for the collateral damage group, it only compounds.

Please read the stories of those damaged by government approved cosmetic devices at:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

What is IPL and Laser Support?

This is both easy and difficult to explain. The obvious is easy, supporting others in need. It is explaining who these others are and what caused their need for support that is more difficult.

Okay, let's start with what caused the need for support.

First, I will attempt to answer "What is IPL?" IPL is intense pulsed light-easy enough. IPL is a cosmetic procedure used for a variety of skin conditions, hopefully administered by medical professionals, but often administered by technicians/estheticians who are not medically licensed.

Some of the skin conditions which IPL is used to treat are rosacea, wrinkles, hair removal, uneven skin tone, melasma and broken capillaries to name just a few. It has been in use for just a little under 20 years in clinical applications. The first cosmetic application approval for IPL by the FDA was for "permanent hair removal" in 1997. IPL technology has evolved since that time. Later iterations of IPL devices have been approved by the FDA for treatment of other skin conditions as noted.

If you would like to read more about IPL, I found one website that is a state government site which has some information on IPL and Lasers. Here is the link:

http://www.medicalboard.iowa.gov/Lasers.html

The website above is one of the few that I found that was not affiliated with an IPL manufacturer or IPL practitioner. There is little, if any, formal medical information on IPL and many other cosmetic devices that is not connected in some way with a manufacturer or provider who uses IPL and/or lasers. Please keep that in mind when reading any "official' or descriptive information posted on this blog or elsewhere regarding IPL and lasers.

Here is another found on an a .edu website, although it seems to have been supplied by a manufacturer or distributer of lasers:

http://tinyurl.com/ag6n4p

Okay, now that we know what IPL is, let's talk about lasers. Lasers are, well, lasers. They are used to resurface the skin. They are used also for a variety of cosmetic purposes having to do with the skin--similar to IPL.

I am a fan of this website, so I will post Dr. T's take on lasers:

http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/invasive/ablativelaserresurfacing.html

I need to dig a little and find out how many cosmetic laser devices there are now. My slightly educated guess is that around 4-5 new lasers have been released each year for the last five years. I will err on the low side with that guess.

There are ablative lasers (Co2 or Erbium for instance) and non-ablative lasers (KTP or fractional--minimally invasive, for instance).

The definition of ablate:

wear away through erosion or vaporization; to remove or decrease something by the process of ablation; to undergo ablation

Not so pretty sounding and not so pretty looking when it first happens either. I have personally had ablative laser. It was not pretty for a long, long time (almost six months). My skin was literally vaporized with an erbium (ablative) laser. My final results were better than many but not what I hoped. The after effects still linger, two years later.

The last cosmetic device I will mention is radio frequency (RF). Anyone remember first generation RF? Read here from a few years ago what was experienced by this group:

http://www.makemeheal.com/forum/viewThread.jsp?forum=24&thread=6122


There you have it: IPL, laser (both ablative and non-ablative), and radio frequency (RF) damage all comprise what caused our need for support.

Now I will try to describe the "who" in "needs support" and why support is needed.

People who've been damaged by any of these devices comprise the who. But, why do they need support? As in most cosmetic procedures, having one/many procedures is a choice and not something that anyone is forced to do. By virtue of that fact, when something goes wrong the person who made that choice begins blaming themselves for that bad choice. Now, having something go wrong with the procedure is of course not their fault, but the choosing it part is what causes so much angst for those of us harmed by cosmetic procedures, especially IPL, lasers, and RF. We often feel that if we had thought about it longer, researched it more, just been happy with the way we were that this bad thing would not have happened to us. All of that may be true to a degree, but regardless of that fact, we are in pain.

Some people have been damaged beyond repair. I know of young lady who threatened suicide after she said her face was ruined forever by Co2 laser resurfacing. She was an attorney who said she had lost her job, boyfriend, and her friends. She said she could not be consoled by her family and she was wearing them out with her emotional pain. She went away (she had been posting on an Internet plastic surgery board off and on for many months) after her threat and she never posted again. Did she, didn't she harm herself? That won't likely ever be known for sure. I pray that she did not, but there's not much way of knowing for sure out here in cyberspace.

For many IPL/laser victims, families are supportive of the emotional pain that IPL/laser victims experience. But we know our families can't really understand what we are going through and besides we took money out of family funds to do this to ourselves, we don't always feel like we deserve a great deal of their sympathy.

The need to have someone else totally understand has driven many to seek out the support of others on the Internet who are like them. It is human nature to seek out those like yourself. Only when someone else has experienced what you've experienced can you feel like you are truly understood by someone. None of us wanted to find others like us, but by instinct we sought each other out. It was not so terribly difficult to find others who've been damaged by IPL or lasers. It was actually quite easy. Now begins the story of how, when, where and why....

I have frequented a well known plastic surgery message board for over 3 years for various reasons. One of the reasons I visited the board was the unhappy outcome I had from my own laser resurfacing. In the course of visiting the board over several months, I kept reading about IPL and fat loss. I had heard the rumors from several years ago that claimed RF could cause fat loss and sagging skin, but I was not familiar with IPL causing fat loss . I kept watching and reading the board for several months monitoring posts on this subject. A pattern developed. More people were posting of their skin changing, dents appearing, scarring, and fat loss after having IPL procedures performed, some even claimed having fat loss from certain types of pulsed dye devices. My ears perked as I've had pulsed-dye myself, but an older version of pulsed dye, by a very capable doctor. I had no ill effects, but I do not discount others who've not been so lucky.

I eventually posted a poll entitled "IPL and Fat Loss" on the message board. It was extremely popular and went to several pages and was eventually locked due to size. You can read the stories here:

http://messageboards.makemeheal.com/viewtopic.php?t=68784

The stories were/are heartbreaking as you might have read at the link above. None of the "victims" could/can get a doctor to take them seriously or believe their fat loss was/is from IPL. Many were/are at their wit's end, pockets empty from trying to restore their faces. Many of these people are heartbroken, despondent, and continuously blaming themselves but angry that no one will listen to their stories and take them seriously.

Thus a support board for the IPL victims and for those damaged by cosmetic laser procedures was born last October (2008):

(edited to add Daily Strength board no longer exists but has moved)

Please visit the IPL and Laser Damage Support Board at:

http://iplandlaserdamagesupport.prophpbb.com/

I hope this blog will inform. I hope others who've have been damaged by IPL or lasers will join the support group. I hope others who are considering any of these procedures will think long and hard before proceeding. But most of all, I hope that someone in authority, a doctor, scientist, or someone will take up this cause and believe that fat loss from IPL can and does happen, Our fervent hope is to protect others from suffering this same fate.

Thank you for reading!